Hi from London UK

Hello from Beverly Massachusetts!

Hi from Volta Redonda, Brazil.

Greetings from Maria (she/her) and Ethan (they/them) from Brooklyn, NY

Hi from Colorado! This is the most “accessible” Zoom I’ve ever been in, big thank you to the organizers. I’m Clea (she/her) and work as staff in NYU IT, and adjunct for SPS.

Hi Faye! Hi everyone! Greetings from Brasil!

Thank you Clea — we are always working on improving accessibility.

I will be looking to learn (I run faculty training webinars). Thanks! Excited for this topic, too.

I think older versions of Zoom don’t have the ability to click and drag captions (or at least mine doesn’t). Folks should try to adjust the size of the Zoom window (i.e. make it narrower) and see if that works. You can also adjust the size of the CC under CC settings.

Is this streamed also on Youtube? Or available later online?

I believe they said they’d post the recording later this week! And hello from LA :)

It will be posted on our website afterwards

Thanks

Thank you for those tips, Emily! I had no idea that was possible in Zoom.

Thanks Jules— agreed. (& we moderators all need to add our pronouns to our names as Emily has done…)

“Allow participants to rename themselves” is turned on—so feel free to do that!

(Cursor over your name in the participants panel, click “More” and then click “Rename”)

I don’t think we can access the participants panel

Ah, we cannot see the participants tab - I think that’s a function of Zoom webinars vs. meetings

Lydia your Are AMAZING. Call all that in.

💯

👏

GO OFF LYDIA

It's tokenism for profit

Whewwwww

Capital Tokenism

YES!! This is amazing.

EXACTLY.

Yes i agree with you!

I don’t want a seat at their table!

YES EXACTLY

AMAZING!

I want to flip the table over.

Really well said!

Lydia is my new hero. <3

YAS.

Snap snap snap ***

WOW indeed

Thank you Lydia!!

mic drop

Mic drop!!!!!!!!

WOW Lydia!!!!

YES

(Don’t worry; I read the chat. ^_^ )

Amazing!

<3

Oh bless you. <3

Poetry. Thank you.

You’re amazing!

You rock, Lydia!

Goosebumps. So important to hear as an autistic person of color.

Exactly. Disability never enters the conversation.

YES LYDIA! Thank you!!

❤️🙌🏼🙏🏼 Lydia!

I used to say ‘it’s like Benetton advertisement campaign’. I never want to be included in there!

Agreed - and I think intersectional theorists would agree very strongly. There’s no “oppression olympics” or end to groups that matter to intersectional thought.

mmm

yes!!

Damnnn

Thank you!

Thanks for flipping political correctness on its head!

🔥🔥🔥

Dear Lydia, My name is Ethan (they/them) I am autistic and gender queer. I really appreciate all the things that you have said about organizations and how they del with marginalization. Everything you said was totally relevant to my experience. I feel angry all the time about lack of understanding and access.

Interpreter is catching up so fast to Michael’s point but a lot of the context were lost. :\

which is why we turn to autistic work... particularly work that views expression not has behavior, but as creativity and invention

Eva Federer Kittay has a lovely chapter on the desirability (or not!) of normalcy in her book, “Learning from my daughter”

Mhmmm

I have removed Xenia

I’m blind/low vision and can confirm, this happens constantly.

Great points Lydia!

and our world is designed (systems, etc.) with and for sighted.

Not only to “preserve” sight or prevent blindness but also to communicate “seeing” according to sighted people’s experiences.

There is no hierarchy of oppressions!

Lydia always brings it

exacccctly…

Yupp

Xenia? @Emily

THANK YOU LYDIA.

First time I've had the pleasure of hearing you speak, Lydia... such a pleasure. Adam and I are listening.

YESS!! On the cochlear implants. You nailed it!

My understanding was that Lydia requested to remove the attendee Xenia Grant from the chat, although it appears the comments were addressed just to the panelists and not the attendees

Agreed with the statement about cochlear implants.

WOW

Yes @ sanism

I’d like Lydia’s talk to be heard by all, esp those who are in education

Lydia, everything you state is so eloquently put and spot on! Listening to you is truly empowering

Estee - I’m happy to finally be in the same space as you after all these years! :) I would love to connect offline.

Yes!!!

Can you link to this fund? Is it this? https://awnnetwork.org/donate-to-awn/

Lydia, this is a really great project.

Here it is: https://autismandrace.com/autistic-people-of-color-fund/

Thanks!

Love it, just donated!

thank you Lydia and Michael for this panel talking. Jae (they them theirs)

excellent point re. AI. I’m on a mission to get rid of virtual proctoring…similar issues!

that's fabulous... will it be on website soon?

All of your work sounds amazing, Lydia. Thank you for sharing!

this is an important thing.

WANT!

Before You Go: https://awnnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Final-Version-Before-You-Go-Know-Your-Rights-Booklet.pdf

mmmmm

I can’t wait to get that

Would love to hear more about this work on collective trauma and support

THEY!

My pronouns are they, not she.

their pronouns are next to their name

Michael you are mis gendering Lydia

Apologies, Melissa! (and Lydia)

💜

YES. We need to eliminate the phrase “new normal”

Whewww

YES! All of this. All of that!

That word "rush" is so important. It gestures to alternative possibilities and conditions that support neurodiversity rather than these unliveable neurotypial/neoliberal conditions that are killing us.

I can understand the misgebdering Lydia as I get this quite often too. trauma is an important part of the mad, autistic, neurodivergent, neuroqueer, and many ways of trauma in the human race. the human race rushes which is like a part of the human experience as well as how much so many things are not a constant. it’s fluid in many ways. Jae (they them theirs)

Thank you Lydia, and Lydia only. Fantastic points. Michael John has added nothing to this very interesting conversation tonight.

Wonder if panelists could comment on the fact that in 2016 and 2020, for the first time, a “disability vote” was organized with groups such as #cripthevote and others and candidates are at least starting to recognize disabiled folks as people to account for - thoughts about that?

I agree with Baetrice. The interpreters are working hard to make clear concise points but I got nothing. Super annoying for Deaf people who uses ASL to tolerate.

Having the Trump folks continue the anti vax movement theories during the 2016 campaign were very hurtful.

Just to clarify, this is about Michael’s comments.

Interpreters are fine.

No I know, it’s impossible, I needed to use the captioning to understand the context that was missing.

Why are you romanticizing this? This is an innarpproiate and ignorant way to raise this question

^Michael John

Let her finish please.

Kiss-fist you Jess.

Them.

No problem, you both have rockets on your hands.

Hahahaha yes!

Yes! @socialworkerscankissmyass on Instagram had some great comments today on the co-opting of "trauma-informed"

(to add to what Lydia is sharing)

Yes re trauma

YES

true about "trauma informed care" being the new buzz word in health care

Damnnn yes

I am facilitating commiunication for my client who is non-verbal autistic, he would like to know: “how can we ( people with autism) be heard in our sameness (and begin) freeing ourselves (humans) from closed thughts” .

Lydia - thank you speaking the true and driving the change

^^

^^^

@Zachary - DRNY could begin with supporting its own disabled employees, and respecting their access needs.

YES yes yes there is no way to compare experiences of trauma

Thank you all - sorry that I must leave session. Faye Ginsburg - thank you and hope to connect soon.

@Kathleen, I spoke earlier to the abusive and violent nature of ABA, and its roots with gay conversion therapy.

@ Lydia, Thank you! I look forward to viewing the recording

Lydia, a question for you. My classmates and I are trying to fight for those with disabilities in our department because we are barely recognized or given opportunities. My question is how do we approach those in power, in positions of the oppression as you’ve so brilliantly described, and hold them accountable to having us be included?

question for Lydia: what would be the strategy for self-advocating in academia if person does not want to disclose the disability because of fear of being stigmatized or discriminated

My homepage is www.autistichoya.net and new homepage (under construction) is www.lydiaxzbrown.com. Most of my writing is linked from one of those pages. I have work forthcoming in several new anthologies - community and scholarly.

I admire Lydia's speaking style and thought processes. I wonder if anyone here has any tips for public speaking/direct communication?

NO IT SHOULD NOT!

Thank you!

@Julie, you can join on your own: https://www.facebook.com/groups/autisticpoc

Thanks!

Someone asked about hobbies - I write fiction and poetry, sing in a few dozen different languages, and bake and cook everything from scratch (mostly Ethiopian, Indian/Pakistani, Thai, Ashkenazi, and Italian food)

I asked this, thank you!:)

I’d love to read your fictions, Lydia!

Yes and no @Rachel. I’ve written and spoken extensively on both the power of the social model, as well as its limitations and failures.

I asked about deaf/deafblind.. :-)

Fortunately all of these questions are recorded — I’m sorry we didn’t get to have a conversation about all of them. (Glad Lydia squeezed their hobbies in though — I didn’t know about the singing!)

Mmmm thanks for that

Serge Kovaleski

Yes!!!!

FACTS!!

I love the way that Lydia says it like it is! So beautifully and powerfully said!

HEARD DC

HEARD NY

YESS!!

www.sinsinvalid.org

Sorry all—since we are over time, the captioner had to log off.

behearddc.org

Thank you for this fantastic event. Bookmarked Lydia’s site!

Thank you for this webinar....

Thanks very much

Thank you all!! So appreciative of this powerfulness

Thank you!!!

Thank you!

Thank you very much.

THANK YOU ALL!

Thank you ALL!!!

thank you!

So many thanks!

Lydia.. as always.. humbled and honored to be in your presence!

Thank you!

Thank you very much

thank you all so very much.

Thank you!!!!

Thank You All!

Thank you !!!!

Thank you so much!

Thank you!!

Great conversation, thanks so much!

Thank you so much everyone

Please connect with me or the Disability Student Union if you want some student to student support or to hear what we are doing to combat ableism on campus. cmb890@nyu.edu

Thank you.

It felt so short! Thank you!!

Many thanks to all!!

Thank you

Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

Thank you SO much for having this event!