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BOJANA COKLYAT, SHANNON FINNEGAN and THOMAS REID discuss ALT-TEXT and AUDIO DESCRIPTION - Shared screen with speaker view
Destiny Lopez (She/Her)
39:22
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Kevin Gotkin
43:33
Check out Thomas’s podcast here: http://reidmymind.com/
Viktoriya Gorelik
01:05:56
HI guys. I have many questions and many comment about communication.
Katherine Jaede
01:06:14
👏
Viktoriya Gorelik
01:06:43
please listen me
Viktoriya Gorelik
01:07:35
i have cp.
Mara Mills
01:09:45
Feel free to put questions in Q&A or in the chat. The panelists will be discussing this questions starting around 5.
Shannon Finnegan (they/them)
01:11:27
Thomas’ article: https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/color-blind-audio-description-inaccessibility
Kevin Gotkin
01:11:29
Here is Thomas’s amazing feature in Bitch (part of a recent series of articles about disability): https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/color-blind-audio-description-inaccessibility
Mara Mills
01:11:44
Thanks Shannon and Kevin!
Viktoriya Gorelik
01:12:26
every day i have problems with communication. because i have my organization. para arts foundation. and i have good idea about communication for people with disabilities
Mara Mills
01:13:29
Thank you Victoria. Here is a link to Para Arts Foundation: https://www.paraarts.org/
jes sachse
01:13:54
I can’t confirm that they described that character not being low vision myself but also the script itself never makes a point to highlight the black characters Blackness and so the white-centring narrative it sounds like is reflected in the white washed audio describing and this relationship is super integral to think about thank you!
jes sachse
01:14:16
from the netflix season 3 of Youˆ
Leona Godin
01:14:21
Hi, this is awesome! I’ve been thinking lately that we shouldn’t hide alt text because sighted people can’t see it—ha! So they can ignore it’s existence, and also they don’t learn how to do it in a natural way. I’ve been just putting it into the text of the post. Do you think the hidden quality of alt text has kept it from being ubiquitous? Perhaps also putting alt text or image descriptions upfront where everyone can see might also help move it from being unsexy compliance to aesthetically pleasing accessibility?
Viktoriya Gorelik
01:15:10
thank you!!!
S. Leigh Ann Cowan
01:15:40
@Leona -- agreed! Also alt text feature is "hidden" in the options of Instagram. You have to click thru to even find the place to add them
Mara Mills
01:17:08
@Leona totally. On the webpage for this event Destiny decided to publicly post the alt text. But we don’t always do that and maybe we should
Kevin Gotkin
01:20:45
Fantastic essay by John Lee Clark called “Against Access”: https://audio.mcsweeneys.net/transcripts/against_access.html
Kevin Gotkin
01:22:29
JJJJJerome Ellis’s album The Clearing is out today! http://nnatapes.com/available-releases/jjjjjerome-ellis-the-clearing
Solana Chehtman
01:23:21
Hi all, thank you for this amazing conversation. I missed the name of the song/fashion show video Shannon was mentioning, any chance to share again here? Thanks!
Jules Csillag (she/her)
01:23:48
http://rebirthgarments.com/radical-visibility-collective (I think?)
Shannon Finnegan (they/them)
01:24:00
Here is the video I referenced: https://vimeo.com/265589004
Solana Chehtman
01:24:24
Thank you both so much!
Mara Mills
01:26:36
Yes, we can save the chat
Robyn Weiss
01:26:50
thanks for a great discussion!
Emeline Lakrout
01:27:56
Brilliant!!!
Mara Mills
01:28:29
We will ask permission from presenters to post, feel free to write to me to check in about the recording or chat: mmills@nyu.edu
Sasha Kurlenkova
01:28:39
Omg, this is such a generative discussion, every word of it ! thanks tremendously!
Leona Godin
01:29:06
Can't stay past 5 today, but man, that was great! Thank you all!
Mara Mills
01:29:27
happy to have you here Leona!
Beth Haller
01:34:54
https://rjionline.org/news/digital-accessibility-is-a-cultural-shift-newsrooms-need-now/
Beth Haller
01:35:50
https://rjionline.org/news/alt-text-is-journalism-enhancing-your-reporting-with-accessibility/
Helyn Marshall
01:38:41
Functional redundancy makes systems more resilient. So yeah, alt-text, long desc, image description under captions, it’s all good. And folks can find their level of interaction.
Chris Nichols (he/him)
01:38:46
Or make it a required field.
Emeline Lakrout
01:44:59
I haven't watched Squid Game yet because there's no English AD :(
Viktoriya Gorelik
01:47:27
)))))))))) i only spoke about translation with my friend!!)))
jes sachse
01:50:59
Thank you so much everyone! Amazing offering / answers
Viktoriya Gorelik
01:56:54
I have problems with my speech. question is we have any program for my speech or not?
jes sachse
01:58:04
yaaaaaaa after party <3
Mara Mills
01:58:45
We can get the questions to Destiny to post on the CDS twitter account — or if someone else wants to post we will chime in!
axmed maxamed
01:59:24
We recently organised a conference and we used Hubilo which has the option to have conversations at virtual tables afterwards and there were a lot of fruitful conversations that were had at those tables after the panels
axmed maxamed
01:59:56
So using a platform like that for the next time would be a good shout I think
axmed maxamed
02:00:05
Thank you all for doing this <3
Mara Mills
02:01:26
Andy Slater: https://www.thisisandyslater.net/
Jules Csillag (she/her)
02:02:00
Thank you for elevating that! The idea of AD being an afterthought or "accommodation" is so different than ACCESS (by design)!
Indyara Morais
02:02:12
I loved the Panel, it's totally amazing to know these perspectives. It would be wonderful to take these last questions and do a Part 2 of this Panel.
Helyn Marshall
02:04:26
Thank you, everyone.
Indyara Morais
02:04:35
Thank you!
Beth Haller
02:04:36
Fantastic! Thanks everyone!
Cecilia Poon
02:04:49
Thank you so much!
Robyn Green
02:04:50
thanks for this everyone
Alexandra Volodina
02:04:51
Thank you so much! Amazing panel!